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Interesting point

Anthony Holmes — Wed, 3 Sep 2008 10:41:46 PM +1100

Dan

That's an interesting comment. It would certainly be nice to stop getting those emails with long disclaimer chains. And the preservation of signatures is a real bonus.

In my part of the world (Australia) the "We've got to add a disclaimer or else something bad might happen" meme spread really strongly, really early. As a result, a large proportion of Australian companies bought third party disclaimer software before disclaimers could be added reliably in Notes without relying on funny workarounds that didn't always work (eg Notes/Domino 4.5 customisation of the Memo form in mail.box per technote 1087361 Workaround 3). They got used to doing it at the server side, and there weren't strong policy controls enforce disclaimers at the client side when the client disclaimer feature first appeared.

And one final point about disclaimers: I'd challenge anybody on the internet to name with even a single case of a decision by a Court of Record that the presence or absence of a computer generated disclaimer made a difference to a case. (That's different to somebody consciously deciding to label an individual email as being "without prejudice" or subject to privilege, or needing it to provide opt out information under some countries' anti-spam/privacy legislation.) My opinion is that the use of disclaimers to disown liability isn't worth the ascii code it consumes. But hey, that's just my opinion. I don't think I've ever managed to persuade anybody to stop using disclaimers.

Why disclaimer software normally breaks email signatures and encryption

Dan — Tue, 2 Sep 2008 09:22:18 PM +1100

Small addition to your text

There appears to be an option on some software that adds a disclaimer in a smart way.....

This works by not add a disclaimer if the program finds a valid disclaimer in the message.

The reason for this might have been to stop email ping-pong messages after 3 times over the "net" (pun intended) to contain 90% Std disclaimer text and you have to hunt for the actual messages.

This functionallity has the added benefit of

clients that adds a correct disclaimer from the beginning and then sign this will have the message untouched by the server software and hence the signature will not break.

Unfortunately, admins does not appear to value this option so does not turn it on.....or it does not exist in the software choosen....

The form one A answer from admins when you talk to them about this is that signatures and keys have to be done and added at the server side since otherwise especially for encrypted messages , virus and other nasties can not be checked at the server, hence they have to be able to encode/decode everything.....SO YOU should not sign at the client!....

*sigh*

/Dan

Bet you didn’t build a big enough local block list...

Chris Linfoot — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 01:44:42 AM +1100

You can have a copy of mine if you want though you will need a good whitelist too.

F5 or F9 what is (or should be) the correct refresh key?

Frank Paolino — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 07:29:24 AM +1100

I have logged out of Notes so many times that I can't count them all! I HATE retyping my password, so every time I want to hit refresh I have to stop and say "F5 for browser, F9 for Notes" and then hit the button. Even with that precaution, I still find myself logging out of Notes when I am doing Domino web design work and I toggle between Notes (to make the changes) and the browser to check how my work looks on the web.

Interesting, I wonder how long has IBM CA for AS/400 has used F5?

Anthony Holmes — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 10:43:00 PM +1100

Do you know how long IBM Client Access for AS/400 has used F5? I'm not familiar with it, but the fact that that it has "AS/400" in the title suggests that it is a reasonably old product.

I wonder: was it using F5 before Internet Explorer started using it?

F9 = 1,2,3:-- Now, who started F5?

Anthony Holmes — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 10:27:18 PM +1100

Ahh!!! Of course, Lotus 1,2,3 was huge before any product containing the word "Office" arrived. (I've even got a copy of 1,2,3 installed on the PC I'm using at the moment.)

So it's probably fair to say that 1,2,3 established the standard for F9 as a refresh key that Microsoft followed with Excel and Word (but not PowerPoint).

The remaining mystery is: where did the use of F5 for refresh start? I'd assume that Microsoft wasn't the first with Internet or Windows Explorer. I'm guessing that one of the early browsers was the first to use it (for example, Mosaic).

Does anybody remember?

F5 or F9 what is (or should be) the correct refresh key?

Carl Tyler — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 08:52:17 PM +1100

F9 was chosen because 1-2-3, the World's most in use PC application at the time (something like 96% of PCs had 1-2-3 on them) used F9 for refresh. This is also why Excel uses F9.

F5 or F9 what is (or should be) the correct refresh key?

Albert Buendia — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 06:27:10 PM +1100

Remember: Begining with Lotus Notes 8, F5 key refresh views like F9 key and CTRL+F5 locks the screen. This is an important change. When you use IBM Client Access for AS/400, F5 key refresh your screen. Regards, Albert Buendia.

Don’t install Domino from a USB Key

Turtle — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:55:27 AM +1100

Yup, the speed difference on many USB drives between 1.1 and 2.0 can be astonishing. Always copy the installer to a real drive, the few minutes of extra time are nothing compared to the insane slowness of USB 1.1. I barely use my old 1Ghz G4 iMac any more specifically because it only has 1.1 ports.

All "Lotus" courses will be available for certification during the University

Anthony Holmes — Mon, 11 Aug 2008 11:17:01 AM +1100

I've been in touch with the IBM Education people involved in the LC&PTU and they tell me that all of the Lotus Certifications will be available for you to take. From your description, I think this means that any app dev course that you are thinking of will be included.

Here's a list of the current certification tests. You'll see that it includes both Administration and Development tests for Notes/Domino, Sametime, Web Content Management, Forms and Portal.

http://www-03.ibm.com/certify/certs/lt_index.shtml

Background information about Fusion... or, rather, the Lotus Collaboration and Portal Technical University

Rebecca Dorman — Fri, 8 Aug 2008 02:26:41 PM +1100

Is there a list somewhere of what certifications can be sat during this conference? In particular I'm interested in those related to the Messaging and Collaboration Application Development Track.

Yes: Lotus Collaboration Summit on 15th September

Mon, 28 Jul 2008 05:45:14 PM +1100

Yes. I understand that there is going to be a free Lotus Product/Strategy event in Sydney on Monday 15th September for those who want less detailed technical information. The audiences for the Summit and the LCPT University will overlap a bit, and some people will go to one and not the other. I'll post further information on the Summit in a little while.

Background information about Fusion... or, rather, the Lotus Collaboration and Portal Technical University

Mon, 28 Jul 2008 02:30:49 PM +1100

Will there be a general intro day with free admission for the tyre-kickers to pick up brochures etc?

Trial version of 8.0.2 Beta

Anthony Holmes — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:36:27 PM +1100

Hi there,

Your best bet for getting a copy of Notes/Domino 8.0.2 beta is to put a request to Ed Brill.

Have a look at this posting. He tells you how to try it out at the Lotus Greenhouse. He also suggests that if you put a request to him, he will see if he can provide you with access. Also bear in mind that 8.0.2 is likely to be released relatively soon: possibly in August.

http://edbrill.com/ebrill/edbrill.nsf/dx/notes-8.0.2-beta-2

Cheers

Anthony

Trial versions of Domino really are time limited

Yash Patel — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 04:05:54 PM +1100

hello i required the source of lotus domino 8.0.2 can you please help me?

How long does it take to upgrade Domino? A new measure...

John Rowland — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 02:07:17 AM +1100

Nothing flippant about it. I am able to send my site admins an instruction sheet with about 5 lines on it and the upgrades are done in a snap. It's one of the things about Domino that makes an administrator's life easier. Thank you, Lotus!

How long does it take to upgrade Domino? A new measure...

Keith Brooks — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 01:42:16 AM +1100

Anthony,

I discussed this as well on a number of occassions on my blog, but the reality is until Lotus IT people understand that doing it in 5 minutes is the issue they may find themselves in an Exchange world.

Domino is perceived as child's play because it gets done faster, simpler, etc.. all stuff which goes against the grain of IT execs minds(weaned on Microsoft usually) and their money discussions.

While I get banged up for it sometimes by non-managers, I propose Lotus management always ask for at least a million for an upgrade project.

Why? Because it shows "enterprise" requirement. Not it can be done in overtime or on the wekeend and seem like some pet project or non-essentiual piece of software.

I love that I can upgrade Domino in 5 minutes but I don't bill for 5 minutes, I bill for the project.

And so should IT execs with lotus infrastructures.

Now if we can get it down to the time it takes to pour a perfect Guinness correctly, 119.5 seconds, that would be a great ad campaign.

How long does it take to upgrade Domino? A new measure...

Brett H — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 01:13:11 AM +1100

Love it!! That is a perfect analogy Anthony. Gee I wish it could be put in a commercial, it would be great. IT crew starts upgrade, one goes to get coffee, comes back and it's done!

Trial versions of Domino really are time limited

Rob Novak — Tue, 8 Jul 2008 02:38:14 AM +1100

Interesting - having installed from Partnerworld (not trial), I didn't see this until one day when launching the Notes client on the server for the first time, when a dialog box appeared indicating there was a trial license and 60 (90?) days. Now, not having seen anything on the Domino server but only the client, I start to wonder whether it applies to the server, Notes client, both, or neither. It certainly wasn't expected.

Crippled IDs vs Installation?

Anthony Holmes — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 02:51:46 PM +1100

Hi Mick,

Your suggestion is given some credibility by the fact that there is some Domino 8 Administration document that refers to trial software having a certificate that expires. But the location of that certificate is still a bit of a mystery to me.

However: My customer was using a server ID that is several years old.

They found:

1. Installing non-Trial Domino software over the top didn't fix the problem.

2. Uninstalling and installing non-Trial Domino software over the top didn't fix the problem.

This is what worked:

Uninstalling and removing the Data directory. They then installed Domino with non-Trial software and started Domino. They created this as a stand alone Test server. They confirmed that Domino was now starting without the "Trial software" message. Once they were happy that the software considered itself to be non-trial, they copied back the necessary files from their backup of the trial server: Names.nsf, server.id, notes.ini and their Quickr databases. The server then continued to start as a full server.